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October 21, 2014 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #613973SayIDidIt™Participant
????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????: ?(?????? ?, ?)
??”?: ?? ?? ????? ???? ???, ????? ????? ????? ???? ?????, ??? ???? ????? ?? ??????? ????:
(Free Translation) Also Noach was lacking in belief, he believed but did not believe that the Flood will come and did not enter the Ark until the waters forced him in.
Or you can read it like this:
??”?: ?? ?? ????? ???? ??? ?????, ????? ????? ???? ?????, ??? ???? ????? ?? ??????? ????:
(Free Transailation) Noach also believed in the non-believers (that they will do Tesuvah), and hence did not belive that the Flood will come, and therefore did not enter the Ark until the waters forced him in.
????”? ???”? ?????? ??”?
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October 21, 2014 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm #1189058popa_bar_abbaParticipantYah yah, I also hold of messing up grammar to read things how I like.
For example, you might read “Bereishes bara Elokim: es hashamyim v’es haaretz. Alternatively, Bereisheis bara: …(don’t want to even say it)
October 21, 2014 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #1189059Patur Aval AssurParticipantIt should then say ????? ???? instead of ????? ????.
October 22, 2014 12:45 am at 12:45 am #1189060SayIDidIt™ParticipantPAA, I did notice that… Gotta ask the Rebbe about that!
October 22, 2014 2:04 am at 2:04 am #1189062Patur Aval AssurParticipant“PAA, I did notice that… Gotta ask the Rebbe about that!”
Well we might run into an issue with that…
October 12, 2015 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #1189064SayIDidIt™ParticipantBump
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October 12, 2015 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #1189065MDGParticipant“It should then say ????? ???? instead of ????? ????.”
Perhaps, with the new reading, Noah had faith in some of them to do Teshuva. That’s the reason for the mem. All he needed was a few to tip the scales.
October 12, 2015 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1189066crispandrefreshingParticipanti believe i heard this pshat once bishem the nesivos.
October 12, 2015 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1189067555ParticipantPBA: It’s bought down by ????? ????? they translated ?????? ??? ?????? .
October 13, 2015 11:22 pm at 11:22 pm #1189068HaLeiViParticipantIt’s actually hard to take it at face value. After working on the Teiva for 120 years while facing criticism and being the target of many jokes, it’s really hard to think that he too doubted it.
My way of understanding it is that he thought it will work out in the end. He figured Hashem won’t pull through with the threat and He’ll scare them or work something out. This is similar to the way children often think of their parents’ wild threats. It’s not that they question their parents’ ability to turn around mid-trip. They just don’t envision it actually happening.
November 4, 2016 8:45 am at 8:45 am #1189069SayIDidIt™ParticipantBump
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November 4, 2016 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #1189070golferParticipantGut Shabbos SiDi!
And may we all make it through our own personal disasters with our Emunah intact!
November 4, 2016 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #1189071MDGParticipant“It should then say ????? ???? instead of ????? ????. “
If you say that, then the present lashon is also a problem. Why does it say he was “from those who had little faith”? I don’t need to know about the others, just say that Noah had little faith. It should say something like ??? ????
Ella, Shema Mina Tartei
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PBA said:
” I also hold of messing up grammar to read things how I like.
For example, you might read “Bereishes bara Elokim: es hashamyim v’es haaretz….”
You can read it in a different way that is chronologically correct. According to one Midrash, Hashen created 6 worlds before the present one. With that in mind read the passuk like this:
“Bara Shis” – [HE] created six [worlds]
“Bara Elokim et hashamyim v’et haaretz” [then] Hashem created the heaven and earth.
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