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  • #1936825
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    Harris will win the democrat nomination after pledging allegiance to all that is left and liberal.

    republicans will be divided some saying how untrump they are; others saying they’re a normal version of trump. the twenty something candidates of 2016 will not compare to the amount in 24. maybe the party will divide into 2. either way it’ll be down to a rino.
    Harris wins by a lot.

    of course, the only thing that’s certain is how unpredictable it is.

    #1936859
    huju
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    1. YWN will be an important source of news for the frum community. (I am not just saying this to be sure my comment is posted.)

    2. The rate of increase in ocean temperature from 2020 to 2024 will be triple the rate of 1990 – 1994.

    3. Population growth of non-Jewish Israelis will prompt Israeli right wing to embrace a two-state solution for Palestinians in Gaza and most of West Bank. Palestinian leadership will reject generous proposals for independent Palestinian state.

    4. UN will subsidize free ham sandwiches for all non-Christian citizens of Eretz Yisrael. Iowa Congressional delegation will support UN resolution.

    5. Donald Trump will be living in undisclosed location in Russia.

    #1936924
    ujm
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    Population growth of non-Jewish Israelis are on a downhill trajectory.

    #1936926
    ujm
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    Anyone who thinks they can predict ’24 is a neophyte.

    #1936938

    After 2020, I dont think anyone can predict what will happen tomorrow lol…
    But I dont see “participants” prediction as anything close to reality. It remains to be seen what role/if any, Donald Trump has here, the storm on the capitol lost him a lot of support among republicans. I do believe the next republican nominee, will be someone with who goes about pushing conservative policy the Trump did, someone who openly fights back against the radical left, but someone who acts more professional than Trump. I dont see any scenario in which the rinos retain control of the GOP. Republican voters have got a taste of what it means to have a politician actually fighting for you. The Republican base has grown considerably more diverse in the recent years, and not thanks to the rinos. Just take a look at who we’ve elected to congress this past election. I think Ron DeSantis would make a great candidate. As for Harris winning in a landslide, a ton remains to be seen in that regard. Remember, she and her socialist agenda was rejected in the democrat primaries. Once Americans get a little taste of what socialist, and “woke” policy, the score might be just a little different in 4 years…Also, Election reform is necessary as well, this years mail-in ballots were an unmitigated disaster. Without change, the republican nominee will be fighting an uphill battle from the start…

    #1936950
    charliehall
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    “the storm on the capitol lost him a lot of support among republicans”

    The large majority of Republicans in the House of Representatives voted to overturn the election, which was the goal of the coup mob.

    #1936949
    charliehall
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    I. F. Stone wrote almost 80 years ago the dilemma that Democrats had in 1900. William Jennings Bryan was a certain loser to William McKinley, but Bryan wanted to run again and as I. F. Stone wrote, “The Democrats had no one else who could collect six million votes.” (Source: I. F. Stone, *They Also Ran: The Story of the Men Who Were Defeated for the Presidency*.)

    So the Republicans will voluntarily walk the plank into the shark infested waters and get eaten alive.

    #1937019
    commonsaychel
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    Anyone who claims he can predict what will happen in four years is an idiot.
    no one predicted that a first term Senator will be beat Hillary Clinton four years out.
    Donald Trump was not even on the radar in 2012
    in 2016 no one predicted the Joe Biden will come out of retirement midway in the primary’s and run.
    We are not nivim and the topic is silly.
    My prediction is the moschach will come, I say Ani Mamaim every day

    #1937233
    johnklets
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    What Common Chaichel said is actualy common shaichel and the way a yid should think

    #1937276

    Cs, john, I think we all agree on that point.

    #1937357
    BennytheKvetch
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    Torahvaluesoverpary,

    I think Kamala Harris’ politics are likely the future of the Democrat party come 2024. She’s a new-school progressive not a socialist, similar to other 2020 presidential candidates like Cory Booker, Mayor Pete, Beto, and Julian Castro. So I’m guessing that the 2024 nominee will be someone running in the Kamala Harris wing, rather than another Bernie, Elizabeth Warren, or even less likely AOC-type.

    I’m both worried and have little idea where the post-Trump Republicans are headed. But I think Ron DeSantis would be a bad choice. His term started well but Covid really hurt him I think. He’s a divisive figure in Florida who has lost the support of non-party loyalists. He could face a tough challenge in 2022 and he only won by 0.4 percent last time.

    “The Republican base has grown considerably more diverse in the recent years, and not thanks to the rinos”

    I’d give it more than one election before you start saying that. The Republicans made clear gains among segments of the Hispanic population in the last election, but it’s too soon to call them part of the base.

    #1937724

    during 2024 campaign, Republican candidates will have a debate. After the debate, they’ll be removed from Twitter, lose their AOL accounts, and have FICO score revoked because they all were advocating verbal violence against the lawful President of the country. House will pro-actively impeach them all. This would be the new 2024 word: pre-peach.

    #2138864
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    so far pretty much on target, just switch rino to an inexperienced populist . (not that desantis is that bad, just sad that gop goes from bad to mediocre.)

    #2141950
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Participant,

    As of now it doesn’t seem like Harris will be president, she hasn’t been in public mostly

    #2141958
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Nobody wants Harris. The only reason she got on the ticket was to make sure Biden did not get impeached. Even in regard to their relationship before the elections there was absolutely no reason she should have been chosen to run with him except for his job security

    #2141967
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @syag

    I don’t hide the fact that I have been a delegate to the Democratic National Convention for decades.
    Your analysis is wrong.
    Harris appealed to People of Color, Women, Non-observant Jews (especially intermarried), mixed race married couples AND brought geographical balance to the ticket.
    She also was in a safe BLUE that could be retained if Biden won the election.

    You conveniently forget that Senators don’t impeach, the House of Representatives impeaches (as they did with DJT twice). The Senate tries impeached individuals.

    #2141977
    moishekapoieh
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    Lo Novi oneichi, v’lo Ben Novi oneichi – Amos

    #2141995
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    I think you misunderstood. Biden was/is obviously cognitively incompetent but booting him means putting kamala in charge. She is also cognitively incompetent which is a tpretty accepted bipartisan fact.

    #2142054
    commonsaychel
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    I will repeat what I said close to two years ago:
    Anyone who claims he can predict what will happen in four years is an idiot.
    no one predicted that a first term Senator will be beat Hillary Clinton four years out.
    Donald Trump was not even on the radar in 2012
    in 2016 no one predicted the Joe Biden will come out of retirement midway in the primary’s and run.
    We are not nivim and the topic is silly.
    My prediction is the moschach will come, I say Ani Mamaim every day

    #2142158
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Commonsaychel

    אמן

    There’s more reason to believe that than what anyone else said

    #2142791
    yungermanS
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    No one besides a Navi Holy and direct messenger from Hashem can predict the future of this country or who will win the elections which actually yes Hashem already has chosen and knows who the winners are even before anyone has started to vote yet.

    We have not had any Neviim prophets of Hashem for thousands of years already since the last ones who were knows as Chagai, Zechariah and Malachi.

    Perhaps once we all get together as one loving nation and do serious Teshuva then Hashem will restore prophecy and the bringing of Mashiach with the rebuilding of the Bais hamikdosh bkarov and then we will get to personally meet Hashems Neviim prophets who for thousands of years gave over the devar Hashem directly from Hashem to klal yisroel whenever Hashem sent them to give it

    #2142846
    ☕️coffee addict
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    YungermanS,
    חכם עדיף מנביא

    There was a tanna that told Vespasian that he will become king, so you don’t need to be a נביא

    #2143168
    yungermanS
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    Coffee addict

    Where does it say what you posted?

    #2143233
    ☕️coffee addict
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    YungermanS,

    חכם עדיף מנביא is in משלי

    And the story with Vespasian is a Gemara in gittin

    #2143476

    Note that while R Yohanan “predicts” Vespasian’s election, he is also does not know how much to ask, decides to ask less, and does not know whether he made a mistake until his death… Maybe his greeting was a combination of knowledge of Roman politics and also a desperate need to flatter the general. If he does know how V will react to an ask, he also does not know whether V will punish him for the wrong title, but increases the chance of making V look favorable at his request.

    #2144173
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Aaq,

    You can be a חכם in some areas and not in others

    #2144180

    And why is chacham better than Navi? Navi gets individual messages from Hashem, while chacham understands the patterns. He can give you a rule that will work in many situations.

    #2294771
    Participant
    Participant

    Okay time to put my wallet where my mouth is.
    I’m putting down 100 figurative dollars on my prediction.
    Any takers?

    #2294981
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I’ll take your $100 figurative dollars (I’m not betting just taking your money) but I do admit, I was very shocked that it seems to be going your way (the Harris being democrat nominee, not the other stuff)

    #2295187
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @Coffee Addict

    Harris is far from a shoe in for the nomination should Biden release his delegates.
    I have already been contacted by operatives for four other contenders interested in the nomination seeking delegate votes and contributions.

    I had not planned to attend this year’s convention with Biden having the necessary delegates, but depending if and when he withdraws I may revoke my proxy and attend to vote and participate in the deal making.

    I was not and am not a Harris fan.

    #2295275
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Ex-ctlawyer,

    You can still be a delegate in CT even though you live in NY now?

    #2295279

    would Josh Shapiro be a centrist candidate who can carry PA and out-of-nowhere become a first Jewish Pres?

    #2295301
    Gadolhadorah
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    Those who wish for Biden to step aside seem to believe it would be relatively easy for the convention to nominate Harris or another candidate that would appear on the ballot in all 50 states as the Democratic candidate. While I truly wish Biden would somehow disappear from public life, the actual mechanics of having pledged Biden delegates vote for a new candidate and have that name appear on the November ballot as the Democratic party candidate is considerably more complicated and will be litigated in a number of states where election laws are relatively arcane and Republicans are certain to contest any changes. Also, there is a federal law requiring states to mail out absentee ballots several weeks after the Democratic convention in August so there will be little time to litigate and resolve any challenges before ballots are printed.

    #2295727
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @CoffeeAddict
    I have not yet changed my legal address. Still have a CT driver’s license, own property and pay taxes there.
    At this point I still get to CT several times each week

    #2295728
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Gadolhadorah

    You are quite wrong about the mechanics.
    If a candidate releases delegates, they may vote for others at the convention.
    It is not Biden who has a place on the 50 state ballots, but the official nominee of the Democrat Party and that person is not chosen until the convention in August.

    In most states absentee ballots can be mailed 30 days before Election Day, not soon after the August Convention.

    Replacing a named candidate on the ballots after the convention can be tricky.

    FYI, I still hold my position as Asst. Registrar of Voters back in CT and have to keep up on the laws. I will be overseeing the August 13 primaries this year.

    #2296025
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “I have not yet changed my legal address“

    I’m assuming then that you still own your property in CT so you haven’t really “made the move”

    #2296032

    maybe Dean Philips can win CT primary absent other contenders and get a leg up on delegates?! Any other primaries left?

    #2296143
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @CA
    Properties are in Trusts, haven’t been in personal name for decades

    @AAQ
    The CT Presidential Primary was in April
    The August Primary is for state offices

    #2330392
    Participant
    Participant

    Hey, I was wrong.

    I think I’m happy about that.

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