17th of Tammuz at the Kotel’s egalitarian women’s section

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  • #1315611
    Lightbrite
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    Question about this post please: What’s going on the right side?

    s that the women’s section? I’m feeling disoriented here. What’s up with the big rocks in the front? Is that new?

    It looks like men are davening on the left, behind that platform – but maybe that’s just rocks too?

    What are we supposed to be looking at here? Is this whole area the egalitarian women’s section?

    Thanks! 🙂

    “WATCH – IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS: Kosel Reformed Prayer Area Remained Empty On 17 Tammuz”

    WATCH – IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS: Kosel Reformed Prayer Area Remained Empty On 17 Tammuz

    #1315675
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    This is the area known as Robinson’s arch. A small part of it is gated off with a platform with tables for “prayer”. no special section for men or women here. The rest is the archeological site- the right side, up front where the rocks are etc.

    #1315688
    akuperma
    Participant

    But non-Orthodox tend to hold that the establishment of the medinah cancelled observance of mourning for the destruction of the Beis ha-Mikdash, so why would you expect them to show up on a special day they don’t hold by.

    #1315687
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    WTP: Thank you! 🙂

    Why haven’t I ever seen it before? Been there before?

    Wow thanks, next time, b’esrat Hashem I’ll find it and check it out 🙂

    #1315869
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Robinsons Arch is to the side of the kotel, its not in the Main Kotel Plaza

    #1316311
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    You haven’t been there before because you respect Torah and Hashem’s makom Kodesh and daven in the women’s section of the kosel plaza in accordance with Halacha.

    #1316907
    Gadolhadorah
    Participant

    The varbeshe section of the plaza in front of the kosel always seems to have plenty of room for davening…no need to wander off to Robinson’s Arch area off to the side of the upper plaza (even though I’m told the Ebeshter will listen to your teffilos from Bergen Mall or wherever you are if you speak to him with kavanah).

    #1316939
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    So there are people who go to the Kotel to not go to the Kotel to pray?

    #1316994
    WinnieThePooh
    Participant

    Unfortunately there are people who go and use “prayer” to promote their agendas and gain publicity and legitimacy for their personal definitions of what Judaism should be, irrespective of Halacha.

    #1317000
    Nechomah
    Participant

    LB, the people who are designated to use that section are people like Women of the Wall who want to go there wearing kippahs, talleisim and tefillin, and want to read from a Torah scroll, just like men. They want men and women to “pray” together. If they wanted to be the women that HKB”H created, then they would be more than happy to go to the women’s section next to the men’s section and daaven, praying one of the three tefillahs of the day or say Tehillim, the way we are supposed to, not the way they want it to be. The above posters are too polite to fill in the details.

    #1317041
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    The group that has a monthly event at the Kotel plaza does not want the Robinson’s Arch space. They consider that a sellout. They want the space in front of the Kotel Plaza

    #1317342
    apushatayid
    Participant

    when the 17th of tammuz falls out on rosh chodesh, that area will be filled with all sorts of wackos with an agenda and those who support them.

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