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Here are some Extreme Regional & Family Chumros
Some sound way out but ?? ?????
No dairy even if milked & processed before Peasch
No oil- only schmaltz
No Sunflower seed oil even though it is not Kutnios. Beth Shearim & Yetev Lev (Grandsons of the Yetev Lev today give Hashgacha on cotton seed oil)
NO black pepper (adulteration by Nochrim)
NO cloves (adulteration by Nochrim)
NO tea (? Bobov)
No carrots (? skver)
NO radish (? chabad)
No gizzards
No fowl (some German Kehilos)
Live fish only
No fish
Nothing that came in contact with Non- meshumar surface (i.e. floor). Some will not use even after washing!!
Nothing processed outside of home. (some prepare sugar water before Yom Tov)
Extreme caution in ensuring no Matzoh crumbs come in contact with other foods IE eating Matzoh out of a bag.
Anyone know of similar Safardi Minhagim! I know that rice is checked three times. Some ?????? (?) use only rice only and stay away from other kutnios
When you think about it, gebrokts has far less of a rationale than some of these, but people stick to their minhagim. Some that I’ve heard of/seen:
A non-observant family that kept the minhag of not mishing but forgot about pesach dishes/kashering.
Radishes (chabad)
Coffee (chabad)
Gefilte fish cooked square on Pesach to make a chiluk
Not eating fish cooked round.
Nothing that can’t be peeled, whether you actually peel it or not. (Baal Shemske eyniklach AFAIK)
Slightly OT question: Does anyone here keep the Chayei Adam’s shita on Potatoes? 😛
BS”D
Supposedly, Belz has a tradition not to eat something (forgot what) because back in Belz of old a barrel of it became contaminated right before Pesach.
Many of us in Chabad don’t eat dairy. I was told 100 times that we can (and that it is a minhag from specific shtetlach), but I don’t (other than in the morning before the first seder) even when I do have access to reliable dairy for Pesach. I’m not sure about radishes. I do use oil; others don’t. Also, unlike some Chassidim who drink slivovitz on Pesach, we don’t drink mashke. (And yes, the real old Russian Lubavitchers do pronounce Arba Koisos as Arba Cases – that is our regional pronunciation!)
Creedmoor adds bleach to their wine for the Arba Koisos. Red to them represents the innocent blood of Palestinians shed by the tzioinim, so they bleach it in order to make sure they are not drinking anything red. Of course, they could buy white wine, but if they did, they would not be Creedmoor.
BS”D
Nothing that can’t be peeled, whether you actually peel it or not. (Baal Shemske eyniklach AFAIK)..also Chabad, and probably most all Chassidim.
Coffee (chabad) Not sure, probably because I can’t drink it anyway. Some of us don’t use tea bags.
I have a minhag to not drink anything less alcoholic than wine.
This is to make sure we don’t accidentally drink beer.
Uh oh 600 Kilo Bear, my wife just figured out who you are!
And I think She’s right!!
My family has lots of chumros but I never felt restricted. Mt mom is a good cook, and its only eight days.
BSD I probably don’t notice radish missing because I don’t eat it during the year. I only noticed red radishes in one supermarket here and only this year; considering this is the heartland of Chabad, I wonder if the reference is to the white radish which a lot of us do eat during the year.
Same as the coffee :).
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Funny, we dont eat most of the foods mentioned here, and I didnt even know they’re extreme! Im so used to it I guess!!
I can’t imagine why people complain that there’s nothing to eat Pesach, if you do eat all of these!
About stuff falling on the floor-what do you do? We discard of any food that fell, and any cutlery that fell will not be used on Pesach anymore.
some dont eat unpeeled fruits and vegetables
BS”D
I know of people who davka burn all the food for the Seder so that there is no chance of any chometz.
However, it is considered meshubach to burn your house down at least 3 days before Pesach so the insurance company can set you up in a hotel in time for the sedorim.
I was once visting Popa on pesach, and what he said is certainly true. Popa’s family is very makpid. It is a minhag from some ancestor.
as defined by NYS law
Why should my family and community minhagim change because of NYS law?
Sefardim from Salonica, Greece have the minhag of no potatoes or rice. Peas were permissible only if freshly shelled. Potatoes were considered chometz.
600- my family doesn’t drink soda because back in the day the soda was said to be good for Pesach but they found out afterwards that it was not… therefore, we don’t drink soda until the last day of Pesach.
We also do not eat gebrakts until the last day of Pesach. These both might be chassidish minhagim but I could be wrong about that.
my shvigger, a’h, used to make falsa fish.. shaped like gefilte fish, made from ground chicken, cooked in water. they didn’t eat fish on Pesach.
We also do not eat gebrakts until the last day of Pesach. These both might be chassidish minhagim but I could be wrong about that.
BS”D
Chabad holds as above. Soda – interesting. I think most Chassidim drink only certified soda water during Pesach. One year I bought expensive Irish mineral water and the rav said it was OK, but Rav Blumenkrantz AH mentioned there are problems with carbon dioxide on Pesach.
As the OP says, its important to remember ?? ?????, that even minhagim that we no longer think there is a need for nowadays should not be dropped without discussion with a rav. After all, why would we still keep 2 days ??? ??? in ??? ???? when we no longer have a doubt when rosh chodesh is!!
Poppa bar Abba; “Not drinking anything less alcoholic than wine”. (Or, Whine”). Let’s put it this way. If someone doesn’t know the difference between 100 Proof Slivovitz and Seltzer, they’re already at the stage of “Ad D’Lo Yada”
I heard that “Real” Briskers only eat Matza the first night and don’t touch it the rest of Y”T lest it contain Chometz…
BS”D
Hmmm..white radish is awfully common here. At the price charged, it cannot possibly be imported. I do know about daikon, but I suspect it may have been grown in the Asian parts of the Russian Empire even during the time of the Tzemach Tzedek.
Yontel (original poster) wrote “Live fish only”.
What are they eating? Live lobster? Goldfish from the tank?
Never heard of that one before!!
Shticky Guy who wrote: “After all, why would we still keep 2 days ??? ??? in ??? ???? when we no longer have a doubt when rosh chodesh is!!”
See the Mishna Brura on Yom Tov Shayni who says a totally different explanation for two days Yom Tov. Because of the leangth and bitterness of the looooooooooong golus, we will forget the cheshbonos and come ch”v to eat chometz on Pesach. (We may end up in a concentration camp and not have a calander with us to know the exact day!)
What are they eating?
He obviously meant fish that you pick up live from the fish store and then bring home and make yourself, as opposed to packaged fish.
I don’t know what he would say about fish that are dead in the store but whole and on ice.
The Wolf
“the Rema (467:8) cites customs to not eat honey, raisins, dried fruit, sugar, saffron and cloves, and other Poskim cite numerous other customs from specific communities.”
If one took on every Pesach stringency that has ever been practiced by every community ever, he’d starve to death!
My only Pesach chumrah: We don’t sell chametz.
“Many Heimishe fishmongers sell fish from British Columbia (I think)with a cert from a Mashgiach that he saw the fish alive.”
You mean the mashgiach is on the fishing boat and eyeballs and tags each fish before they take their last breath? Sounds very fishy.
Is there an extra charge for this service? I wish that I would have thought up this chumra first.
And what does seeing the fish alive in British Columbia have to do with the fish’s kosher status in Williamsburg?
charliehall- “My only Pesach chumrah: We don’t sell chametz.”
So what do you sell?
our minhag is not to drink any type of soda just seltzer
Years ago there was no mechanism to produce food before Pesach and to preserve food for Pesach use. As a result, most foods had to be produced by the consumer at home on Pesach or right before Pesach. Many of minhagim of what was not eaten on Pesach is a direct result of this reality and has absolutely no bearing to the current way of producing and processing foods and the sophistication of the hashgacha enterprise. Most of the non-meat foods did not have hashgacha all year, so for Pesach many of these foods were not used at all.
Our housewives are not opening up and cleaning chickens and gizzards right before Yom Tov and our floors are covered, vacuumed and chemically cleaned.
Our homes are more halachically cleaned and hermetically sealed than the homes of the past. Many families are already pesachdic a days before Yom Tov, which was never the case back then.
It was not economically viable to produce dairy for just the few days of Pesach since everything had to be fresh and, no matter what, dairy was not eaten on Yom Tov or Shabbos.
So it seems to me that while there was good reason at the time not to use certain foods, today I would consider them shtus minhagim; certainly those minhagim that were not universally accepted by ashkanazim or s’fardim as a group.
to some of us, the Minhagim of our Bubbies and Zadies are very dear to us, and not shtusim, even if the original cause for the Minhag (which is not always as clear and simple as you would think)is no longer applicable
also i am told my great-gradfather was so machmir on matzah getting wet that not only did he eat matzah from a bag but during motzi matzah he had a seperate plastic tablecloth just for matzah and should matzah be on the
same surface as food not even touching he would throw it out
Mod – Except that we tend to confuse a necessary abstention for the times with halacha l’maseh. If the Shulchan Aruch didn’t forbid it and it wasn’t picked up by k’lal yisroel as a group, it is a minhag that only that particular group may feel a need to follow. There is absolutely no inyan to pick up and follow minhagim that your family going back doros did not have. Adaraba, what does it say about your ancestors that they did not follow that particular minhag that you have chosen to follow, that they were not frum enough? Not so poshet is right.
Not using soap is a minhag shtus IMO. For many reasons.
I don’t quite understand why many Lubavitch won’t use lettuce products but will still use Romaine for the sedarim.
i just got an email the other day that is hysterical- different typical things all over the house that are covered in silver foil….
SJSinNYC~ the Lubavitchers I know use endive … still a type of lettuce.
adorable~ I saw those pix, too; it was EVERYTHING in the apt. covered in aluminum foil 🙂
cherry, there are some people that do not allow matzah at the same time other food is on the table. they eat the matzah first on a plastic then replace the plastic and eat the rest of the meal.
commonsense – these are modern people who adapted the modern invention of plastic to the minhag; what did their bobbehs and zaidehs do?
Also, how do they manage Koreich, when matzah and food are eaten together?
& once again, re: Lubavitchers– they do not use any sort of spread on matzah… i.e.- no butter, no cream cheese. (to the best of my knowledge).
“I have seen them in action drying the leaves”
Why, does it take them 18 minutes to eat Koreich?
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