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July 25, 2024 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #2300072square root of 2Participant
On R”H we daven “ויעשו כלם אגודה אחת לעשות רצונך בלבב שלם״ . Unity, it would seem, is only possible when we’re united for the right things. How could we possibly unite with reshaim? אין שלו׳ אמר ה׳ לרשעים.
And yet, the end of הניזקין we find just that. Making dispensations in Halacha to accommodate דרכי שלו׳ with עבריינים.
Chazal tell us of the benefits אחדות awarded the דור הפלגה and אחאב.
How can we possibly understand this?July 25, 2024 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #2300103SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe pasuk that you quoted in Hebrew is Isaiah, chapter 48, verse 22.
Our first step should be to read commentaries on Isaiah, chapter 48, verse 22.
Our second step should be to read the end of Nezikin,
where Chazal made heterim for Darcei Shalom with reshaim.Our third step should be to read commentaries on the end of Nezikin,
where Chazal made heterim for Darcei Shalom with reshaim.July 26, 2024 9:42 am at 9:42 am #2300109Reb EliezerParticipantRashi snswers your question in Bereishis (11,5) umisham hefitzam, peace is loved and machlokas is hated. By dor haflaga there was unity for the bad. so Hashem broke up the unity rather than destroy them, whereas at the dor hamabul there was no unity.
July 26, 2024 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #2300311DaMosheParticipantI suggest you read Pirkei Avos, where it differentiates between machlokes l’sheim Shamayim and other machlokes. There can definitely be disagreements, and you can even say things against a belief, as long as it’s for the proper reason.
July 29, 2024 9:10 am at 9:10 am #2300326GadolhadorahParticipantAchdus in support of evil achieves nothing. In EY, there was achdus for the first month or two after the simchas torah massacre but both sides quickly retreated to their corners and began talking past one another and the political leadership sadly seems to thrive on this polarization.
July 29, 2024 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #2300807☕️coffee addictParticipant“Achdus in support of evil achieves nothing“
It was the difference between the דור המבול and the דור הפלגה
I think it accomplishes a lot
July 29, 2024 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #2300867square root of 2ParticipantJuly 29, 2024 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #2300868square root of 2Participantפיזןר לרשעים טוב להם וטוב לעולם
July 30, 2024 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #2301368HaKatanParticipantAchdus with reshaim is forbidden and is damaging to the soul. Darkei Shalom is very different than achdus; darkei Shalom could be used by gentiles, too, with whom there also is obviously no achdus.
Regarding reshaim, Dovid HaMelech wrote in Tehillim: “Halo misanecha Hashem esna…”
Real achdus is among G-d-fearing Jews, not reshaim who are, at most, irrelevant.July 31, 2024 8:32 am at 8:32 am #2301474☕️coffee addictParticipantAchav’s army never lost a war because there was אחדות
July 31, 2024 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #2301515Reb EliezerParticipantHalston, I thought I quoted a Rashi above.
July 31, 2024 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #2301654Reb EliezerParticipantShould be Hakatan above not Halston.
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