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anon- i really dont want to go down this path, and i wont. ill spare you all the gory details. you honestly cannot, and i think i mean that literally, imagine how tough it is for men. im not talking about bummy guys, bad bochurim, or kids who go off the D. im talking about every single normal health male. just as you cant understand what it means to be in withdrawal from a drug (no shaychis intended, its just something that you cant claim to understand unless youve been there), you simply cannot fathom the difference in this YH. im not sure why its sad that its true, and i dont know why it bothers you. is it a feminist thing to insist that women must be equal to men in every respect, this included? im not excusing anyone for doing anything wrong, and they will burn for it, but the level of nisayon simply isnt equal.