Reply To: Why Would a Girl Even Want to Learn Talmud?

Apparently, Sam2 was the only one who understood me. 🙂

“Also shows me the superficiality with which you grasp chazal’s statements.” This line was supposed to make it obvious that I was sarcastic by saying chazal didn’t want women to learn gemara because they will be offended. Goodness.

Peirsuh: If levaryehboy thinks the gemara is insulting women, he has a superficail grasp of what chazal meant when they said certian things.

Or, his biases automatically make him think certian things are denigrating to women, when, they are really not.

My proof of this:

“Learning in-depth about blood stains, the obligations a woman has to her husband, the very graphic descriptions and logical analyses of hara’ah, neshikas ha’ever, shelo k’darkah … (need I say more?) may offend your somewhat feminist, or at least feminine, self.”

I was laughing really hard when I read this paragraph. I cannot for the life of me understand why any of this would me more offensive to a woman than a man. The only reason it would be offensive is if you MAKE it offensive. Like LevAryehBoy does quite well. There is nothing OBJECTIVELY offensive in any of this.

1) “obligations a woman has to her husband”… Do you find it insulting when you learn about the D’ORAISA obligations of onah a man has to his wife? This carries much more halachic weight than the other way around.

2) “learning in depth about blood stains”. Would you find it insulting to learn in-depth about the halachos applying to a male zav? Or other forms of tumah?

3) “the very graphic descriptions and logical analyses of… neshikas ha’ever, shelo k’darkah … ” Why in the world would any of this be offending to a woman and not a man? And what in the world do they have to do ith feminism?

“From the moment you asked earlier why the boys would look at the girls but the girls wouldn’t look at the boys, I realized that you obviously don’t know the differences between boys and girls,”

Again, this provided some good comic relief. Levaryehboy – you need to learn to read more critically.

I have some news for you about the “difference between boys and girls” – some things are not that different. In a room full of adolescent boys and girls, the girls are looking at the guys too. Maybe a a little less because they are not as visual, but trust me, they are looking. So here’s some education for you.

“You also said you were intelligent.”

No I didn’t, but thank you for the compliment.

Sigh. I think some posters could use a boost in reading comprehension. Maybe Sam2 could help.