TOI- before responding,allow me ot say that I appreciate your civil discourse in our discussions- contrary to others- and this alone may be encouraging.
Please re-read my postings: to me, real Zionism is living in Eretz Yisroel and developing the (whole)land. The political aspect of this- meaning full independence- was not part of the original Zionist idea (Chovevei tsion and others). Hence, there is absolutely no contradiction saying that the early proponents of going to Eretz Yisroel (Kalisher, Mohilever,Netziv)were true Zionists and yet we cannot know how they would respond today to the present situation. Independence may have come anyway- due to the political developments in the world- but we cannot extrapolate from one era to the other.