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ROB, you’ve already been proven wrong about your idolatry of Zionism. This does not mean you can’t live in Israel, but the halachos against Zionism are very much real, contrary to Zionist fantasies.
And it’s not just Brisk and Satmar. Rabbi Reisman, as published on the front page of the Flatbush Jewish Journal, a while back, said that the gedolim held that the founding of the State did not change the halachic problems with Zionism and the State due to the 3 Oaths, etc.; what changed is the tactics of working either with Zionism or outside it, depending on your view.
But no objective Rabbi argues against the clear reality that Zionism was and is treif and shmad. Read Rav Elchonon’s Ikvesa DiMishicha and read Zionist history going back past the last century up until today. It’s clear to those not pocheis al shitei haSiifim.
I recently saw an article from a Rabbi who works with one of the “Frum” programs in the IDF and he admitted that the IDF is not a place for a frum kid who is “on the derech”, regardless of gender. That, too, is certainly a question of halacha, though it’s not that much of a question since the Chazon Ish and others forbade it for both boys and girls.
From a cursory reading of your posts, keeping in mind that you are a Zionist, it seems your entire halachic compass is way off, which is why PBA’s discussion with you is not going anywhere.
But you can go back to the Rabbi Dov Lipman thread and re-read, if you’d like. As you said there, nothing will convince you to give up your eigel, but you can re-read it anyways.