yichusdik, you missed the entire point and, as a bonus, you are also wrong about the Nazi comparison.
I was not condemning anyone, and certainly not a typical secular chiloni who I have previously said is likely a tonik sheNishba. I also never claimed anyone is an angel. Please relax.
I agree with you that many of them could care less what “Chareidim” do, other than the army issue.
The point is what Zionism is and is not. Zionism is shmad. Zionism is NOT merely a movement for a State. I explained all this above.
That doesn’t mean your typical chiloni is or is not anything. But Zionism is still shmad, as written.
MDD: I assume you wouldn’t care to actually back up your assertion that I am “wrong”? I even gave you plenty of reading material for mine. I guess you meant that you don’t agree even though you can’t disprove what I wrote and also have no (stated) proof to your own wishes about Zionism.