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ubiuitin: Im obviously not an expert. But once we are having this discussion lets bring up a couple of points.

1) I think, although Im not sure that most mass murderers that we know of was involved somehow in a violent culture thing be it vidoes and games, religious fanatics, or disallusioned military nincompoops. Once accepted a normal and natural people dont recoil so quickly.

2) goverment is not perfect they are part of the problem. As long as they are not held responsible on real issues they just create bigger messes. ( i would bring up obamacare but not here it would be fun to do it in another thread)

3) Reallypart of 2 we have so many laws that are not enforced. Why dont we listen to ourselves for a change and do the logical thing and prevent the illegal and detrimental. We yell about the cost of caring for illegal immigrants. We yell about the crime that comes along with them. We are upset about the poor standard of living they bring along. And yet we refuse to seal the borders. If we dont want to protect ouselves then dontbut dont yell about in political campaigns, on the house and senate floor, in the media then write another bill tht we have no way of enforcing. (Now call me racist). Dont force me to give up my rights because the government refuses to do its job of protecting me but keep on pandering to non citizens and looking away because it might gain votes. Its insensical.

4) we already tried it in california and it was proven that it doesnt work in this part of the world.

5) Im not okay with anyone just getting hold of a gun, but as long as there are so many illegal ones out there i dont want any more restrictions on the legal ones. I view it as a real self defense issue.

Finally, i do believe that if we were to work on this together outside of politics or government for that matter and truly want to do whats good for the country, not either side if the aisle or specific political gains, we would be able to come up with something much more logical and timeworthy.