to health and HaKatan: you have been proponents and apologists for the satmarer shittah on this website forever and you should actually be commended for this impossible task. The problem you face are the facts. BTW- G-d forbid that I accuse R’joel zz’l of anything. I have respected him and his Torah forever- while maintaining that he has erred in his analysis of historical events. You have also ,many times, argued that the gedolim who supported Zionism and the establishment of the medinah(and there are plenty of those) have erred, so it is no insult to say that R’Joel zz’l erred.
To answer your assertions- first, health. If I remember correct, your traslation of that maamar chazal (about the finger not doing anything without the direction of heaven) is not correct and it clearly deals with actions, not punishments. But the main thing is simple.As discussed by many others on this thread, bechirah is individual but does not history make. HKBH dictates history.If -chas vecholilo- the establishments of the medinah (note ,I do not excuse the secularism of Zionism) is an aveirah, then why is it thriving? The ‘maaseh egel” brought immediate retribution! To continue saying that the medinah is evil and,although it is thriving now, that sometime in the far distant future, it will (chas vecholilo) be destroyed is just pure sophistry. You can continue doing this forever and never be contradicted because you will always say: just wait till next year!. Indeed, I have said many times that history will decide who is right. If the satmarer rebbe zz’l is (C”V) right, then the medinah will not endure. If, by contrast, we are right, then we will thrive. I, for one, believe that HKBH brought us a brocho.