Gavra at work, the gedoilim, will give exact instructions as necassary, and until they invite you to join them on the moi’etzes, I assume that they can manage.
Gedoilim who have reffered to this as gezeiras shmad also include r’ yisroel of vizhnitz, the rebbe of Sanz in e”y, and R’ Dovid of brisk.
BEWARE, starting with gedoilim can be very dangerous.