Reply To: Blaming the Same Gender Unions: A Personal Rant

@Hakatan

I’m not angry, but I do wish I weren’t wasting my time. What you could have said was that you haven’t seen it but if it is as I am quoting then whatever position you would take…rather than saying you couldn’t find it and simply stonewalling.

1st of all, I was looking in the yalkut lekach tov last week

today I picked up a lekach tov, but there was nothing in it for Korach until Perek YUD CHES. I’d take a pic for you to prove it but I know such a thing would not be put in the CR

I am not stonewalling. I have been enjoying this thread, Thanks for getting me to open a chullun and learn it inside, Bava Kama with meforshim, and other perushim. And I hope I get to see the Lekach Tov soon. The point for me is not who is right, I look forward to seeing the lekach tov inside and hope I can find a lekach tov with Perek TES ZAYIN in Korach quite soon.

I don’t understand why you sink to such a low and accuse me of disagreeing with chazal. I’m disagreeing with you. You are not Chazal, and you’ve yet to show that Chazal learn Kivan SheNitan the way that you do. If the lekach tov learns it the way that you do, namely that non sinners can get harmed solely due to the sinners (IF, cause I haven’t yet seen it inside) There are others who I’ve quoted who learn it differently. Go find the kever of the Emek Daver and accuse him of rejecting Chazal.

2- Even if we go based upon the lekach tov and how you understand it, that would be Yidden being punished for Yidden, it is YOUR PSHAT that it can be learned from there that goyim can cause yidden to be punished due to Kivan SheNitan (Not the Lekach tov, Not Chazal, Not Gemarra in Bava Kama, YOU!!)

You conveniently ignored the emek daver in my previous post? Why?

Oh, and the Lekach Tov, R’ Moshe Najara, is an acharon, not a rishon, not an amora, not a tanna, and certainly not chazal. He has every right to his interpretation of Kivan She’Nitan. As does the Iyun Yaakov, the Emek Daver etc.

So what it comes down to is that you’ve already decided what you hold and nothing anyone tells you will change that.

I’ve looked everything up in order to understand it. Kivan SheNitan is a HUGE sugya with many varying opinions and applications. It can be a topic in its own right. But your pshat I havent seen yet outside of the CR

and I agree,

So what it comes down to is that you’ve already decided what you hold and nothing anyone tells you will change that

Right Principle, Wrong Application