benignuman:
Who said it “didn’t work out” and even if that is so because they didn’t get to speak to the President, who says it didn’t accomplish anything, regardless? These were great Torah giants who participated in this. Are you sure wish to ridicule them so flippantly?
JayMatt:
1. I never said we should educate them about their zechusim. But even for our own sake, we don’t want our host country to be sedom. Lot needed tremendous divine intervention and it was still bad news for Lot even though he was rescued. It is certainly in our own interest that our host country should be a country with proper morals, including not sanctifying that which the Torah calls an abomination.
2. While the cases of Toeiva and WW II are indeed not comparable, there are still certain cases when a larger protest is called for. I’m not saying this toeiva issue is or is not such a case. But there is such a precedent for certain cases, and nobody ever proclaimed that such measures were limited only to the Holocaust.
3. Again, my point does remain that despite there being two other zechuyos as you pointed out from that gemara, it is still very extremely foolish of the gentiles to do what they did by legislating “writing a kesuba between one man and another”.
As for your other points about “Partial-Birth Abortion”, “pulling the plug”, etc., note that murder is not a toeiva as is mishkav zachar nor is it a particular zechus the nations have as is not writing a kesuba bein ish LiIsh. Regardless, I am not taking any position as to whether or not I believe there should have been protests then. But I do know that the Torah calls this toeiva and that there are also Chazal’s further comments in the gemara as per the above.