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JayMatt19
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1) One of the things that provide a “Zchus Kiyum” for the Umos HaOlam is the lack of recognition of same gender relations.

2) Rashi explains that this Gemorah is stating that this is even though in private they engaged in such actions.

To state that feeling that there may be a connection between the recognition of same gender marriage and the destruction that took place afterwards is not the way of the Torah is a feeling that is not in line with Chazal’s understanding of the Torah since again a Gemorah was qouted and explained where just that is done.

@Ben Levi

1st of all, in that Gemarra you quote, R’ Yehuda is arguing on Ulla (the opinion you quote).

Secondly, according to Ulla, who says the yidden get punished due to the actions of the goyim?

How many yidden lost their homes?

How many yidden lost their lives? (at least 2 that I know if during Irene)

How many yeshivas suffered major damage?

How many hours and days of limud torah were lost?

How many kollel yungerleit in Lakewood had flooding and no power for days if not over a week?

How many TONS of seforim became shaymus because of damage from the hurricane?

Because Goyim decided to recognize these unions the yidden got punished?

Yidden dont get punished due to the actions of the goyim.