Reply To: What's wrong with the draft?

akuperma said:

The military solution won’t work. The Muslims will never accept a non-Muslim country in what they regard as their turf. They will accept, based on past and even current practices, a non-Muslim community that accepts that its the Muslim’s neighborhood and are content to be autonomous, i.e., accept being “second class citizens.”

Hiloni Jews have a western ideal of civil and political rights. They also are very much into being libertines and other behavior that Islam (and not coincidentally, Judaism) can’t put up with. The hilonim dream they can offer bribes and lands and make the Palestinians go away, but the hilonim can’t offer to give up being part of Euro-American secular culture nor can they accept loss of political primacy.

The Hareidim can make meaningful concessions to the Muslims (ban gays, close down the brothels, ban ribit, require modest clothing, etc.), and Hareidim can accept be an autonomous community within someone else’s country. Running the government has never been a priority for us.

Only the Hareidim can make peace. Only the Hareidim can prevent the destruction of the Jewish communities of Eretz Yisrael.

My response: You are a dreamer, my friend, if you honestly believe the Arabs are willing to make peace with the Charedim because of common interests (ban ribit, modest clothing etc).

Til now the suicide bombers haven’t discriminated between charedim and chilonim when choosing their victims. They kill indiscriminately. It is absolute delusion to claim that there is more chance of peace with Charedim.

At the moment, the IDF is well and truly needed. Whether the state should have been started is another discussion (although as a frum person you should be aware of the post-Holocaust sentiment at the time that allowed for the state to be created) but be as it may, the IDF is needed now.