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Pac: The data from the girls schools has been published again and again and again. The data for the boys schools was was given with the express condition that only people who needed to see it should see it. And you can be sure they did.

Hello99: You are free to your opinion. Unfortanetly for you the people advising in the situaton feel that if boys wold beging dating closer to 22 than 23 there would be no harm done to the marriages. In fact many many boys would want to start earlier but are unable to fight the societal trend and therefore they start later.

Just to take your exact comment. The first chesvon or iyur AFTER he feels ready… and what would be if he enrolled the cheshvon or iyur right before he was ready and started learning without any interest in dating so that after 3/5 months he will then beging dating – instead of comning when he is ready and THEN waiting for 5 months……..

The present situation is such that the boys move in LARGE groups not on individual readiness and that is resulting in many many boys starting to date later then they really would want to.

As an aside, i take issue to you continous use of the phrase pressure/force boys to begin dating earlier then they are ready to. I don’t think i’ve posted one comment along those lines. I’m simply advocating returning from EY SLIGHTLY earlier and then everyone will begin dating when they are ready. The R”Y advising this course of action are more than ready to “take responsibility” for your concerns.

Are you perhaps concerned that if a boy wasn’t artificially held back, he would beging dating against his/his parents/his rebbeim’s better judgemennt simply because he can?

(this is not to insinuate that this specific course of action was brought before 70 R”Y. It’s obvious that projects can’t be run under advisement from 70 people. However, the R”Y advising the project are well respected by the 70 different R”Y who signed to the age gap concept in general)

anon1mous: The reason i discuss learning boys is simply because they are all together in a few places and thus the most movement with regards to shidduch changes can be made working with them. Working boys by and large don’t move in groups nearly as large and thus its much harder to effect change it that group. The shidduch crisis affects girls looking for all different kinds of boys.