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WolfishMusings
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The world would have ceased to exist if Torah was not being studied.

Again, where’s the proof for this? Where is the proof that the world will end if everyone stops learning Torah?

I am sorry to have to say this Wolf, many idolators are amongst those who think that the world exists without a maker.

That’s not a proof. Because an idolator believes (or doesn’t believe) something does not affect whether it’s true or false.

The additional proof is that many times the world has almost come to an end has v sholom, because of neglect of Torah study – e.g. people with real potential loitering in places like this particular thread in the Coffee Room asking or pretending to ask totally un-called for questions, inviting what comes.

Are you suggesting that asking questions in the CR is going to cause the end of the world?

I’m beginning to think that you don’t fully understand the concept of a proof, so I’ll expand upon it.

You stated that the constant study of Torah is proof that it comes from HKBH. Again, how is that proven? You state that if it were not studied, the world would cease to exist — but, again, that’s an assertion, not a proof.

You stated that the fact that the world cannot exist without HKBH is proof that the Torah is from Heaven. When asked for proof, your rejoinder was “well, idolators think….” What idolators have to say on the matter is really beside the point and is not a proof at all to your position. So, again, I ask you the same two questions…. a. please prove that the world cannot exist without HKBH and b. if you can prove a, please show how this is a proof that the Torah is from Heaven.

To guide you, allow me to give you a piece of advise one of my professors in grad school told me:

A set of facts or evidence without a position is a summary.

A position without facts or evidence is an assertion.

A position with facts and/or evidence is an argument.

Please provide a cogent *argument* to prove your points.

Thanks,

The Wolf