yeshivishsocrates -“Ive posted my argument as many times as ive needed to respond to yours!”
Repeating something a thousand times doesn’t make it any more true than the first time around!
“Without knowledge of the statistics, who are you to say whether or not self control without intervention is enough?”
Yes, this Is the statistics. Since you’re online you can Google what professionals have to say. I already posted one above, but there is plenty of proof about needing professional intervention for people like this.
“I was not at the asifa in fact, so another horrible guess.”
I guess people like you didn’t need to go -you have the same train of thought as many of them there.
“Smoking is allowed in yeshivas because it aint as cut and dry as you claim it to be. They dont allow bochurim who are addicted to treif food to eat treif food, irrespective of their addiction to it. Smoking is allowed because bochurim are not in prison, they have the right to make and rectify their own mistakes, so long as they are not infringing on halacha. Before you jump down my throat about how assur smoking actually is, i wont entertain that argument, its been done by many greater people than myself and yet is still inconclusive.”
The fact that you and others are in denial doesn’t make it Muttar. Go to this topic here in the CR and you’ll see noone alive nowadays holds it’s Mutter. The fact that Some Yeshivos don’t treat it as pornography is simply because they are into the PC as opposed to just Mutter or Ossur!