DY -“Do you really expect anybody to take your words seriously?
No, but at least take the words of the Mishna Berurah seriously.
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Maybe your potatoes, beans and barley are edible raw?”
Please, I really shouldn’t have to explain this to you, but the MB says the Mechaber doesn’t hold of this Taam. But I can even say Pshat acc. to those that do. Because who is doing the cooking? The goy is. In my case it’s the Jew. I think you can figure out the rest. If not, post this and I’ll go into the basic details of Muktzah.
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Oh? I really like when you write in Hebrew and your point is????
Like I said there is no Tzorech Godol here and that’s why they are Goizer whether the Goy cooked it for you or he cooked it for himself. They don’t want you getting around the Melechas Shabbos of cooking. But this Sevara doesn’t apply in my case.
“Yup, you are right -that’s exactly what I hold; NOT!
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I love the Hebrew again. Look up -I said “NOT!”
“Who said it wasn’t secured in the outlet? Or you thought you plugged it in, but you didn’t?
You.”
Let me explain -Secured means I put it in tightly. Where I said it was Mutter was either it wasn’t plugged in at all or s/o tripped over it and pulled it out. This is an Oiness. The only case I could see that would be similar to 253 – would be if s/o put the plug in very loosely and it fell out.
“Are you sponsoring?”
Why don’t you go to a Yeshiva or neighbor and try and borrow one? I’m not in the business of getting people Seforim. I don’t have too many myself.
“No answer there. If you think there was, please quote or link to the post.”
Here it is again from two pages ago –
“Health, You can’t extrapolate oneg Shabbos (cholent) from kavod habrios.”
I didn’t. You didn’t read my whole post:
“But he says/brings many cases of Ameira L’acum that he is Matir in situations of Tzorech Godol. Check it out!”
“I think it’s there also, but I’m like you -I don’t want to go searching for it.
The difference is, you claim you saw it there.”
I never said I saw it there. The PHS brings it down. What he says over there I don’t really know. He just says look up the Baer Moshe -Kuntrus Electric.
“I was; I’ll repeat:
The R’ma in 328 allows bishul al y’dei aku”m for a child who has no other food, because a child has a din of a choleh. If the R’ma were mattir a d’oraiso for the mitzvah of oneg Shabbos, this would be true even for a healthy adult.”
Tzorech Shabbos is Not Tzorech Godol!
“Look it up. My point is that 253 is the same “tzorech gadol” you had.”
Wrong again! 253 is a case of Peshiah.
“At least you’re Modeh B’miksas!
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That you argue semantics!
“How many times are you going to say that?”
As long as it takes -as long as it takes.