DY -“Read the M”B; someone who pakens shailos by himself surely can read and understand a M”B.”
Oh, I read it and he is explaining why it’s Ossur to eat a Goy’s food even if he cooked it for himself. I was wondering what this had to do with Ameira L’acum by Tzorech Godol. I guess nothing – that’s why you answered the way you did. Pulling rabbits out of hats is not going to Prove me wrong.
“I did not follow the Yoshon discussion, but I’m not sure if you’re making a basic mistake in assuming Yoshon was assered by Chaza”l; it is in fact, d’oraiso.”
Yup, you are right -that’s exactly what I hold; NOT!
Funny you didn’t read my posts over there, but you are telling me what I hold! Are you a Novi or something? Bezman Shchorov Bais Hamikdash -Nitnoh Nevious etc.
“They did set it up to last; occasionally (as the Darchei Moshe says), it would go out.”
It has to be set up that Al Pi Teva it will always last, not sometimes the fire will go out or sometimes the gas will go out. This is putting yourself into a Matzif of Tzorech Godol -which Chazal would never Matir! Such a simple concept, but either you aren’t grasping it or you don’t want to grasp it.
“You should have plugged it in and made sure the plug was secure. Big peshia! (I’m arguing l’shitoscha; your whole point is irrelevant and invented.)”
Who said it wasn’t secured in the outlet? Or you thought you plugged it in, but you didn’t?
“I don’t have access to that sefer,”
That’s not my problem. I’m sure you could order it.
“and even so, kavod habrios is bigger than your cholent; if you disagree, you’ll need to bring a raya”
We actually had this discussion on the previous page. And I answered you over there. Check it out!
“You also claimed that he addresses it in B’er Moshe, which I do have access to, but for some reason you have not been able to provide that source.”
I think it’s there also, but I’m like you -I don’t want to go searching for it. I already see he is Matir in the PHS!
“I have brought several; even if you erroneously think there’s a difference between your case and 253, you need to explain the R’ma in 328.”
Look not one of your so-called “Rayos” is even remotely Oisgehalten. As far as 328, you gotta be a little specific on what your Raya is!
“You should also check out Aruch Hashulchan 34 – 36, who learns the R’ma distiction between a food which had cooled and one still warm, as applying to kavod Shabbos, and a mitzvah which would be muttar in a case of shvus d’shvus, but NOT a d’oraiso.”
Now which case are you talking about – the case of Tzorech Godol or 253?
“Hello99 and I are mostly arguing semantics (the term tzorech gadol vs. tzorech Shabbos), and whether one, in theory one would have to protest.”
At least you’re Modeh B’miksas!
“We agree, however, that what you did was clearly assur according to all shittos we follow (and I think even according to the shittos we don’t follow).”
What’s the Chiddush here? This I know from the beginning that you both disagree -I’m still waiting for a Raya! Just because you both say you’re right -doesn’t make you right -only in your minds!