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Yserbius123 -“I see no reason why any Yid should care about what is assur, but legal for goyim to do.”

I’m not going to present an argument on this statement here -I have many times in the past addressed our religious responsibilty regarding this point. Check out the many other topics on Toieva.

“The only arguments against gay “marriage” are from a Torahdik perspective.”

far east -“But the truth is i don’t care about the issue enough. If people want to do disgusting things behind closed doors thats not really my problem.”

Where did the two of you go to school that you were only presented with liberal philosophies?

What I want to discuss here is the agenda that believing in a Toieva lifesyle and even marriage can’t be opposed from a Goyishe outlook. This is the philosophy that the libs have pushed upon the rest of this country. Anyone who has studied Philosophy knows that Ethics and Morality are the basis of most laws. They also know amongst the theories that exist – Morality based on Religion is one of them. So for me to oppose Toieva from just based on my religion is one of the accepted philosopies – so who are you to tell me that I can’t and it’s wrong? You can have one of the other philosophies that are given, but you have no right acc. to Goishe way of thought to say my philosophy is wrong!

“This is a logical fallacy known as the Slippery Slope or the Domino Theory. Its basically saying something is bad because it will lead to something even worse. Not only is this false”

While there are many arguments against this way of thinking and one of them is sometimes you accept the issue presented and it never turns into something else. So this argument has to be used very carefully, but it doesn’t mean having such an argument is a Fallacy. The Slippery Slope argument is a justified way of being against something regarding Ethics & Morality. Your point of view is one of the opposing points of view against the argument, but this doesn’t make the argument a Fallacy!

So many posters here, not just in this topic, but everytime Toieva is discussed here in YWN, simply believe that we must follow the liberal agenda and not oppose any Toieva Rights. Not only is this wrong from a Torah Perspective, it’s not a given even acc. to the Goyishe Philosophies that there must be a thing of Toieva Rights!

The Elements of Moral Philosophy by Rachels is one of my sources.