apukerma- I strongly disagree with you on vritually any subject you write about- certainly about Eretz Yisroel- but I appreciate your level headed apporach and answer (unlike some others…)
May I say that you misquote me and I hope it is just a slip pf the pen (keyboard)-you say that “you think we are extinct”. HUH? where did I say this anywhere? “Punk farkert”, I have the deepest belief in “netzach yisroel” and the Almighty’s hand in choosing us and helping us throug the centuries. .This is why I also believe that our return to Eretz Ysroel and the revival of Jewish soveriegnity over our land is “min hashomaim”.
You say that we have no control over anything (see your response)- and that it is all in G’d’s hands, yet you refuse to see the same divine guidance in the return to Eretz Yisroel and our rebirth as a nation. What is it- everything is “min hashomaim” but not the medinah?? this is a totally incoherent appraoch.
You also minimize the concept of “hishtadlus’ but this is for another day.
Lastly, the fact that there are yeshivos and torah in abundance in Eretz Yisroel today is due, in no small manner, to the fact that we do indeed have sovereignty over our homeland. You do not really accept the idea that the same would be under Syrian or Palestinian rule, do you?