Reply To: What's the argument against having a Madina?

I’m not taking any sides here but it could be that the anti-zionists read that Gemara in kesubos to mean that there can’t be any for e involved in taking it and perhaps by fighting any wars for our continued possession of it they would say that that is going against that Gemara. Also many may believe that everything has to be lsheim shamayim (which all agree to) and the state of Israel was probably not established lsheim shamayim because it was started by many anti-daati people (ex. Herzl ) and also because it may seem we just did it to be like the rest of the world and to make a name for ourselves which should not be our intentions because as long as we are in Galus we should remain quiet. Just some suggestions. If any more come to me I’ll be sure to post them.