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Wow, MDD, first time I’ve had a direct quote from the Torah called a modernishe zach. There’s a first time for everything I guess.

Even assuming your absurd notion that the Chofetz Chaim would have countenanced the abuse of an 8 year old frum girl, or the throwing of stones (on shabbos) at mechallelei shabbos who are avadeh tinokos shenishbu, or the screaming at a woman seated at the front of a bus, you outdo yourself with your kano-us. Don’t forget, there was more than one person or group called kanoim in our history. There was the kanous of Pinchas, which it would be total azus metzach to assume you are on the madreiga to emulate, and then there is the kanous of the zman churban bayis shaini, exemplifying the outcome of the sinas chinom that destroyed the beis hamikdosh. You may want to be a kanoi like Pinchas, but you sound like a kanoi from the time of the churban.

And BTW, you know that the person you are yelling at is sinning intentionally, how? Does this also apply to children, who have been yelled at as you paskened is mutar, if not always “wise” for months in Beit Shemesh? Are they even of age to be a meizid in anything? And is their parents “sin” appropriate to be moche because they don’t have the same daas Torah as you do? It keeps coming back to sectarianism. We don’t need to worry about the seculars or the reform or the reconstructionists, because before they can do their damage to klal Yisroel, you will have written off (and yelled at) the 75% or more of the orthodox world who holds by a different shitah than you.

You know, you talk about me inventing modernishe reasons. I’m talking about learning a 2000 year old lesson that you are willfully ignoring. Nothing modern about maaseh ovos simon libonim. Smart people, smart Jews, learn from their mistakes, or those of their forebears. You should try it some time.

And no, MDD, you aren’t going to browbeat me into silence like has been done to others on many threads when they seem too unlike you and your confederates in their thoughts and words. And I say this because I love you and every other Jew and it pains me to read words so full of anger and such readiness to pounce on another Jew’s perceived shortcomings. It is time to remember what Hillel hazoken said about Veohavto loreacho komocha. All the rest is commentary. Now go and learn.