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Sam2
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Yitay: That Gemara, as well as I believe a Mefurash Gemara about Yeish Mazal L’yisrael (end of Shabbos maybe?). Also, some of the Geonim and early Rishonim (philosophers) learn that Gemara in an interesting slant. They hold like some of the Muslim philosophers who hold that every action is predetermined. A Tzaddik is just someone who does good things with joy and bad things unwillingly. A Rasha is someone who is the opposite. It actually works much better with the words of Hakol… Chutzh Miyiras Shamayim. Still, it would seem that Klal Yisrael holds like the standard interpretation of that phrase.