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Sam2 – if that were true, then all of the frum organizations should stop accepting donations from non-frum Jews. Unfortunately, they could never afford to do this because the bulk of their donations come from just these people. I recently read an article – can’t remember where and can’t quote any stats – but the gist of it was what I have just stated. BTE, I am not saying that you believe this – you even said that “there are some who claim”. As Jews, we are all in this thing called life, together. We really must stick together because there are so many that would like to destroy our nation. Sometimes, when I read the news on many frum websites and see how much space is devoted to (for lack of a better word) sect upon sect violence and fighting, I begin to think that we will never be able to stay together as a Klal. We seem to be doing a fairly good job of destroying ourselves. I never seem to read about Protestants against other Protestants, etc. Why do you think there is so much of this infighting amongst Yidden? (boy have I gone off topic)