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itche- we can. i think we all do. the point of contention, i believe, is that some people are against drinking on their own morals, nothing to do with judaism. if eliyahu hanavi said to drink they would still feel bad. they cloak these feelings in a guise of leshem shomayim and say how terrible it is and how bad these people are. the RY they speak of put thought into it. even if he loves to drink, he would still assur it because he holds that on a spiritual level, its bad for his guys. fine. but some people, my rabbeim included, hold that, in moderation, whiskey is a good thing. if its not coming from hashkafos hatorah, rather from personal preference, then we may as well make the thread about doing drugs on simchas torah, and their point would be the same.