Reply To: If you really want to do something and are told no

Thank you so much all of you for the answers and support! i never thought i’d get this much from here… i really appreciate it, some of these answers really touched me.

Firstly yungerman1 – thank you for the advise not to mention the sport, you gave me a clean way to do what i was thinking – i’m saying i’m taking your advice!

i liked the words said.. (too much to mention all specifically) but i really appreciate every one of you who posted.

Regarding asking the sheila – i asked my rav, somebody who knows me very well. i didn’t want to do it behind my parents back and they told me to ask… a shame i’m too honest because i want to tell my parents i got a yes and go anyway. i don’t know that i care whether it’s wrong or not, elul or not.

Honesty again, i guess i couldn’t ask somebody else.

Regarding kapusta’s advice – yes, he said it’s okay if it’d be women only etc but i wouldn’t be able to pull that one off. He was also really bothered about the music which creates an atmosphere and you’re actually in it, different to a shop and different to listening it yourself. “It’ll put you down”. It’s difficult just to care!!!!!!!

Observanteen, i like the thought of it being like a korbon, and about doing the “no” things, well i’m not sure i want to care either.. where’s the beauty of being frum??????

bpt – lol! yeah i should try it… it’ll work as far as getting my father to pay for swimming and nutritionists and the like !!