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A lot more Chareidi men today work than are in Yeshiva, so the similarity to times of yore is more similar than being admitted.

Depends on the community and what you define as “Charaidi”. It does not seem to be the case in EY, or even many “Charaidi” towns in America once you take into account “Klei Kodesh”. Also look at ages 18-35 instead of before when full time learning became the norm instead of the exception.

And that in of itself proves the shift. We don’t even do what we did 30 years ago, let alone 100 years!

Now, if you want to define Chareidi without the Kollel vs. working aspect, then I will agree with you, to a large extent. But since full time Kollel has so strongly redefined society, I see it difficult to discuss without it.