MW13: You said “The yeshiva world scrupulously tries to avoid anything and everything that could damage their ruchniyus.” Do you think this is true? Haven’t we seen countless examples where the opposite is true? In addition, what is wrong with Torah Umada? Most of our Tannim worked! Not one of our Taanim or Amorim which we hold dear, relied on government assistance and burdening society is general to support them. Each gadol did what they needed to do in order to learn. The chofetz chaim has a store etc. When I was in Chasom Sofer as a child in 7th grade, it was a boy from a “frum yeshivish” home that brought in a improper magazine to show to the other boys. It was the chassidsh man on Motza Shabbos who was behind “the wall” in Video Rama in BP. Hamyvin Yovin. Yes, I will be shouting chotznius because we have lost our moral compass and started judging other people!
This whole concept of we hold Torah more important than other groups is disturbing to me. As the example in one of my previous posts about Moshiach coming and not wearing the right hat. Do you think hashem really cares about our hats? Or if we are affiliated to Orthodox, Chassidish, Mo, etc? Kovah Etim is not learning 100 blatts. It is learning that one line of chumish at 6:00 PM, every night no matter what. THAT is what shows one is machshiv torah and that is why K’vayah Eitem is asked and not how many blatt. When I see people who work all day and show up early to learn and at night to learn. To me those are the pillars of the world! They could use the most often heard excuse “I am tired” etc. They do not. They make time to learn.
I, as a black hatter, who went to frum yeshivous etc. am tired of people being lumped into categories that suits the frum world.
What I do find funny is that if you go to a chasddish shteibel, the most frummiest black hatter is considered a bum. Doesn’t this tell us something about us looking at the chetzonius?
The lakewood world might find their derech to hashemn sitting and learning while asking for handouts or marrying rich, is the best way to hashem. MO feel working and learning is the best way to hashem. Chassdim fidn their way is best. They are different ways, not one is better or worse, as long as they lead to avodas hashem.