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When you say that you “do admit that this is the ‘New Israeli Chareidi Hashkafa'” are you referring to my quote from the Chofetz Chaim? I don’t understand how that would make it a ‘new’ hashkafa.

In fact considering all the European Yeshivos used to go collecting all over Europe and America, I’m not sure I understand where you are coming from at all. I’m not even sure why you call it ‘nowadays’ and ‘Israeli’ when Lakewood has had a kollel for years.

The most that you can say is that kollelim have spread over the last generation and I fail to see how that is a bad thing. Do we not both agree that Talmud Torah k’neged Kulam and that the Limud Torah that takes place is responsible for most of the good things that we have today?

I’d also like to address your suggestion that I maintain a “‘magiyah li’ attitude”. As I previously stated, I’m not supported by anyone, have not been for a number of years. I think that what you are calling ‘magiyah li’ I am calling “magiyah l’lomdei Torah”. I think it is the job of all of klal Yisroel to support Lomdei Torah and I think for the most part those of us that are learning recognize it.

True story: I had some extra money not a lot but a nice sum for E”Y and arranged a roundabout way for it to make its way to a friend of mine who was having a lot of trouble getting Shabbos food together on a weekly basis. (Yes, I also feel it is my job to help support Lomdei Torah.) This friend in turn turned down the money and instead passed it on to another friend who he felt was in an even worse position than himself.

I think this story illustrates that it is not a ‘magiya li’ attitude that we have but that we understand that we are all responsible in helping support Torah any way we can. For some of us this means learning it, for others that means supporting it but everyone has to be a part of it to the extent of their abilities.

You are right. No one can sit around at home all day expecting money to come in. But we are not talking about sitting around all day. We are talking about people that are doing avodas hakodesh, the most important occupation in the universe.

You would pay your doctor for a checkup, but you wouldn’t pay someone who is sitting and learning for maintaining the world around you?