apushutayid: just listen to what you just said.. yeruchmeil who had been doing it for 30 yrs.. so obviously he dealt with HUNDREDS of boys.. he MAY be able to point out 1 or 2 boys… it just sounds like most boys end up going down in frumkeit.. i dont want to sound mean.. cuz i do know of a couple boys who ended up AMAZING eventhough he was in mbc.. but what i was saying is that i know more boys who ended up worse than how they started..
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