aries – I am not arguing with you whether there is a problem with kids/adults getting drunk for no reason. All my point is, that not allowing kids to have wine at kiddush, or not allowing bouchrim from have a lchaim at the seudah, is not what will prevent them from going free on thier own. I dont think these few kids that go on their own and intoxicate themselves is because thier parents let the have a spoonful of wine by kiddush, cause if that was the cause you would have a lot more. And what makes you think that by not allowing them to have wine at kiddush will stop them from sneaking? I strongly think that these kids would go on thier own regardless of what they were taught. This that I brought in the fact that my father is a hatzolh member is just to point out that even though he has gone on pently of such calls , It didnt change the fact that he allowed us to have wine by kiddush, and a lchaim. Why, because he taught us when, and how alchohal should be used.
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