pascha bchochma:
“Why would you point that out here? A thread by someone who obviously cares about halacha?”
I did not bring this up, Ben Torah did.
“But what happened here was not constructive at all. Bringing up the issue of the churban when we are trying to serve Hashem b’simcha, takes away our simcha shel mitzva, our joy in doing the right thing, even though it’s not easy to sleep on our back or do many of the things suggested, we do it in order to serve Hashem. Believe me, a woman who will not put on makeup on a three-day yom tov, is not wearing makeup just to look good – she’s wearing it because she needs it.”
Ditto.
“You just don’t see why what you’re doing is wrong, that you are claiming women are responsible for the churban, do you.”
I never “claimed women are responsible for the churban”, I was quoted a Gemora that says one of the reasons for the churban was that women were wearing too much cosmetics.
And no, I don’t see “why what I’m doing is wrong”.
“We do not claim that you are even though you are inappropriately criticizing a nonexistent event in a thread that was started to enable us to follow halacha.”
Huh? What “nonexistent event” am I “inappropriately criticizing”?
“Kabel et ha’emet mimi she’amro – work on your bain adam lachaveiro and don’t jump at every chance to blame others.”
Whoa.
1) I’m not the one who brought this up.
2) In my book, quoting a Gemora is hardly “jumping at every chance to blame others”.
“I don’t have a gemarakup and don’t know how to explain to you why what happened here showed a major problem in our society”
“major problem in our society”?! From quoting a Gemora?
“but please try to understand why so many girls who post here, are saying essentially the same thing and have the same feelings.”
I do understand that people are getting rather worked up here. However, I think this primarily due to some miscommunications that have come up. Therefore, I would like to clear up the following point:
Nobody is suggesting the Churban was the solely caused by women. That would be absurd. Women wearing too much cosmetics is only one of many reasons brought down by many other Gemoros (including sinas chinom, shelo borcha ba’Torah tichila, along with many others) for the Churban. Everybody is at fault here.
“Calling something apikorsus just emphasized this sense that you are ready to jump on anything to blame women”
Excuse me, I did not call anybody an Apikores. Talk about nonexistent events…
“We don’t believe that everything posted on the CR is true even if you wish we would.”
Neither do I. However, until I get a chance to look up this Gemora the only thing we know about it is what Ben Torah has told us.