oomis1105:
“Why do you find it so disturbing that when a comment is made such as why the churban happened for a reason other than what I was taught my entire life (and it sounds like a comment made by someone who does not like women too much), that I would ask for a verifiable written source that I can ask my Rov about?”
First of all, I’m not sure why you keep on mentioning “the churban happened for a reason other than what I was taught my entire life”. Now you know it. What diffrence does it make if you didn’t before?
Second, I take issue with you labeling an Amora who said one of the reasons for the churban was something women did as “someone who does not like women too much”. Seeing as women are about 50% of the population, something of the tragic magnitude of the churban would probably be at least partially their fault, no?
“I would ask for a verifiable written source that I can ask my Rov about”
What do you mean? The post that quoted this Gemora clearly gave a source for it (Shabbos 62b). By all means ask your Rav about it.
“Does the Gemarah al Pi Hashem state the cosmetics issue as the reason, or was it the opinion of an Amora? There is a difference between saying Hashem said so, and a flesh and blood person THINKING it so.”
And if it’s just an Amora saying this you wouldn’t except it?
“Don’t you also think that if this is in fact true (and I take your word for it that it is in the Gemarah, just like the story of Kimchis, btw, which is not halacha), that with ALL the tznius things that girls are being taught in BY, that they might have wanted to impress this notion on the girls, as well, so as to prevent them from using excessive cosmetics and bringing about more tzoros upon us?”
I hardly think it’s a proof something doesn’t exist just because it isn’t taught it in BY.
“Amoraim and Tanaim disagree with each other all throughout the Gemarah.”
True. However, we have no reason to assume there is any disagreement here.