“Oomis, it says so in Yeshaya Perek Gimmel,”
Thanks vey much, I will try to look it up ASAP. And to the person who basically called me an Apikorus…boy, do you not know me.
“I find it highly disturbing that you demand a source in nevuah for everything. The Gemora clearly states why Hashem destroyed the Bais Hamikdash – why isn’t that good enough for you? Do you not believe the Gemora?”
Why do you find it so disturbing that when a comment is made such as why the churban happened for a reason other than what I was taught my entire life (and it sounds like a comment made by someone who does not like women too much), that I would ask for a verifiable written source that I can ask my Rov about?
Does the Gemarah al Pi Hashem state the cosmetics issue as the reason, or was it the opinion of an Amora? There is a difference between saying Hashem said so, and a flesh and blood person THINKING it so. If you do not see the difference between the two concepts, there mamesh can be no honest dialogue here with you. I merely want to know if these are Hashem’s actual Words to us.
Don’t you think it is relevant, when 50% of the Jewish population is being accused that their actions of putting on makeup are so heinous so as to warrant the destruction of the Holy Temple? Don’t you also think that if this is in fact true (and I take your word for it that it is in the Gemarah, just like the story of Kimchis, btw, which is not halacha), that with ALL the tznius things that girls are being taught in BY, that they might have wanted to impress this notion on the girls, as well, so as to prevent them from using excessive cosmetics and bringing about more tzoros upon us? Please.
Instead of people reacting hysterically, why don’t they try being a little objective, and understanding what the question is, instead of accusing people of being chutzpahdig, apikorsim, ignorant, whatever it is that they think them to be, just because they ask a simple question. If I were not a frum woman, this would have possibly totally turned me off. If you are going to make statements that put women in a really bad light, then you SHOULD have the sources at hand that prove these are Hashem’s words. Amoraim and Tanaim disagree with each other all throughout the Gemarah.