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Moq
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Mamish mamish. Ok, I’m yotzeh being yeshivish.

Of course, our own powers of perceptions are the basis of any and all belief. But it’s important to realize that logic is not our only basis of perceptions – though it is certainly essential, and the only objective one. But our subjective powers are no less real.

Our a priori knowledge is vast, and includes – but is not limited – to logic. Experience does not teach us all of logic, merely practical logic. But there is a great to deal to logic which is postpriori.

When people get wary of questions, and when the Achronim disagree about the study of philosophy, it is because of this – that philosophy sees logic as axiomatic. It’s not. It’s merely apriori.

But as Kant points out, God – Torah – by definition is beyond human perceptions and limits, including logic. Hence, logic is futile before God. We may only perceive God via our other perceptions – and certainly those do not suffice.

To say that God is logical is to limit Him to human terms. Such a God is not God. How did that master of logic perceive God –

“Two things fill the mind with ever-increasing wonder and awe, the more often and the more intensely the mind of thought is drawn to them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me.”

Once we perceive the existence of an

-All-Powerful

– All-Knowing

– Kind & Benevolent God,

via non-logical means!

then we may presume that he made it possible to find him. As logic is the most universal, we may then resort to logic. But even then, if one could perceive Yahdus through irrational means, it would be equally valid. And may do. Of course, one can present this to another person. But if someone says that the beauty of Yiddishkiet, it’s purity and structure and history are enough for him – well, that is equally valid! And if people which to encourage others on that path, it is equally valid.

But for someone of us that won’t suffice. But it’s certainly an equally valid approach.