aries2756 – First of all, calm down. I never said there are no issues that are causing kids to go off the derech – I was just questioning which reasons you were referring to, seeing as you failed to mention any in your first post. And yes, these are the reasons that many go off the derech, but others also go off from pure tayvah.
“Do you want to talk about glorifying physicality? Do you have a crystal chandelier in your home? Do you possess silver and gold? What about diamonds? Do you get fancy linen from Elegant Linen? What other forms of physicality do YOU surround yourself with? Don’t be a hypocrite!”
That’s not quite the type of physicality I was referring to. I was referring to the fact that the culture around us encourages and elevates the mindless, animalistic pursuit of tayveh and instant gratification. If children watch TV/unfiltered internet for hours a day, will they learn the value of giving to others, of self-control, of doing what’s right no matter how hard it seems? Or will they CH”V learn just the opposite?
(Now, lest I be accused of “hating”, “shunning”, or forming an “exclusive club”: NO, I do not look down on those who do have TVs in their homes. I simply don’t think it’s a good idea.)
“Don’t be a hypocrite!”
How can you possibly accuse me of being a hypocrite?! You know nothing about me! For all you know, I might be living in a trailer park, feeding my family by collecting garbage! Why do you keep on jumping to conclusions like this?
“And whenever you start a thread criticizing other people, you are going to lead people down a path of loshon horah.”
Once again, I do not believe that this thread was created to criticize people, just to warn them.
And if you truly believe criticizing will lead to lashon hara, why do you spend so much time criticizing others?
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sof davar hakol nishma – “aries, mw13, you can’t make a klal of why kids go OTD. Each situation is it’s own story, it’s own ‘history’ how can we come and make a klal? Yes you can say that ______ is a helping force. That the combo of no shalom bayis, internet,…or whatever but how can you nail it on one thing? and for each kid it’s a whole different story!”
I wholeheartedly agree. Did I imply otherwise?