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mbachur, I understand what YOU are saying and I don’t care either way. My point is for all those who are so harsh on others and throw the “RAV” or “HETER” or “HALACHA” card around, there is no heter for men and women to have such an exchange and discussion even though we are faceless and nameless. I doubt that if every husband and wife were to peak in to some of the very heated discussions that THEY would approve either. That’s all I’m saying. Its fine for me because I would talk to you face to face. I don’t need anyone to justify themselves to me. I was making a point that people do what they choose to do and find justification for themselves. However, when others do something that THEY don’t approve of they come down on them very harshly.