“But anyway, I enjoy shopping for clothing and enjoy talking about my bargains after a (necessary) shopping spree and I don’t see anything wrong since it’s an occasional occurance and I don’t feel like I am a shallow or uninteresting person because of that. “
I am sure that you have lots more to talk about than just your shopping expeditions. The impression you gave was of teenagers.
I find this entire thread to be a bit offensive, btw. Who appointed any of the people in the CR, the outdoors police? Women are not shackled and chained, they most certainly are not WANTON for heaven sakes, for going outside and talking with friends, and all of you who think otherwise have totally lost all sense of reason, in your quest to be tzniusdig. That is not tznius – it is unreasonable expectations.
And another thing, the problem is with the MEN, not the women, so it would seem to be a great deal more fair for the men to stay indoors all day and all night, protecting their eyes from normal sights and sounds, and see how they feel about that restrictive environment after two days.
Women, even more than men, need to get out of their house and talk with other adults, given all the responsibilities they have in the home and with their children. Stop laying this all on the women.