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ben Levi, there are rabbonim who hold that if ten women daven together,t hey may form a minyan, and some hold they may even layn from a Sefer Torah. I do not hold by that, but there are halachic opinions that it is not assur. Note I do not say it should be done, only that there are opinions it is not assur. And while you are correct that Pesach is xecher l’Yetzias Mitzrayim, you missed the point. The Torah defines what our yomim tovim are b’feirush. Chanukah and Purim are the two exceptions, but Chanukah commemorates a neis that happened in E”Y, and Purim commemorates one that took place OUTSIDE of E”Y. Hence no Hallel is said on Purim. It is said on the shloshes regalim, because they are designated IN THE TORAH. It is said on Chanukah because it took place in E”Y. Yes Yom Kippur is Yom K’Purim, but that is an esoteric idea, meaning that the kedusha of both days is equivalent (purim because kadosh because EVEN THOUGH we are eating and drinking a bit more than normal, we STILL MAINTAIN derech eretz. Anyone can be a tzaddik when he is fasting and davening all day. But to continue to be a tzaddik even when imbibing alcohol and feasting, THAT is tzidkus.

Nathan: You clearly have already been dipping into the liquor in anticipation of Purim.

Neither my husband nor I has ever had a bad experience, as you call it, with alcohol. We are not drinkers, except for kiddush on Shabbos, and on Pesach for the arba kosos. occasionally I will have a pina colada at a simcha, if it’s served, but my husband does not indulge, as he is the designated driver. I have personally never been drunk, but I have had a buzz on once or twice, from some champagne. The fact that you feel free and easy to comment negatively in a personal way about someone’s drinking or non-drinking habits only serves to show you to be more judgmental than you seem to believe me to be. And a drunken bum IS a disgrace to Torah, there is no heter whatsoever anywhere for any jewish child to ever cause a chillul Hashem by drunken, obnoxious behavior. The fact that “modern” orthodox kids on Central Avenue may act wild and cause a ruckus on Friday afternoon, in no way excuses the awful, rowdy behavior of kids who ought to know better (by that faulty logic), because they come from more yeshivish backgrounds. If anything, they are worse, because they purport to be b’nei Torah, so their behavior is under even greater scrutiny by Jew and non-Jew alike.