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I feel that we are going in circles here. But at least you were able to give me something here to work with.

If Chazal or other gedolim knew of any technology, weapon or cure that could have saved any Jew at any time in history, they would have been mechuyav to use it.

They did, why do you insist they did not. They knew that punishments come to Klal Yisroel due to averos, and they knew which ones. They knew what needed to be done to stop the tragedies (nebuch, Klal yisroel did not heed this message at times). You believe in teva. You believe weapons and medicine works without G-d.

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The above notion borders on the pre-ordained fate doctrines of Calvinism. That kind of fatalism is fatal; literally. It’s ironic that fulfilling Divine law often forces us to fight against Divine Will. but it’s what He wants from us. We have a mitzvah in the Torah of “Al taamod al dam re’acha.” Yet the person we are trying to save may have a g’zar din of mavet upon him. How can we go agsinst G-d’s justice? Because it is not for us to discern what G-d wants. It is for us to fulfill His Torah.