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I feel that we are going in circles here. But at least you were able to give me something here to work with.
If Chazal or other gedolim knew of any technology, weapon or cure that could have saved any Jew at any time in history, they would have been mechuyav to use it.
They did, why do you insist they did not. They knew that punishments come to Klal Yisroel due to averos, and they knew which ones. They knew what needed to be done to stop the tragedies (nebuch, Klal yisroel did not heed this message at times). You believe in teva. You believe weapons and medicine works without G-d.
The prescribed medicine for the guf and neshama, why is your counter argument about those things that would only work on the guf.
The only thing you are proving here is you do not know chazal.
By the way, the question raised earlier about why did Chazal not show us their scientific chachma more blatantly (e.g. by going out and building a nuclear bomb)
That’s because despite the knowledge they had. They had no desire to use it.
They had about as much interest in wasting there time with these inventions (Which only decrease belief in G-d, and still can only work if he wants them to, e.g. a parked car in a Haifa Mall) as you have in understanding pshat in a tosfot in nedarim.
anyway, this who thread has gotten repetitive, circular and annoying. Joseph, Why did you ever reopen this closed thread????
Is it too late to close it again??