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I want to put an end to their suffering, through curing those who suffer now and making sure no further sufferers are born. Same as Dor Yeshorim and Tay Sachs. The world without toeva would be a far, far better place both for those who deal with it and for the world at large.

Letting them tell how they suffer may help people see toeva as what it is rather than what the oilem goilem says it is.

However, from the description given in the original post, these people apparently do NOT resist their temptation, and they therefore deserve no sympathy, but rather that indeed everyone should know who they are and know to keep a wide berth. If they were speaking as cured toevaniks, just as we hear cured alcoholics speak, then it is worthwhile.

And if YU has an undergraduate “Tolerance Club,” then there is something seriously wrong. However, if Rav Shachter made it clear it was not supported by the rabbinic leadership of YU then at least that leadership is doing its Torah mandated job.

Finally, does anyone know what the turnout was or how active the Tolerance Club really is? I was just arguing with an eccentric who despite living a frum life mourns the demise of Communism and says he’d take the old days over what he has now – there are weirdos everywhere and in a free world you can’t squelch their weirdness (it is good for comic relief anyway in this case). This wannabe Commie is just talking to the wall, and if that is how the Tolerance Club is seen then so be it and it already gave me an idea for a new theme for a certain blog…..