i will NOT respect the other side…because assur…mutar…whatever it is still wrong, and your argument of hashkafa only started based on the sports. we got that out of the picture. everything i said makes perfect and no one in their right mind would argue on it.
so lets lay iy all on the line. end this pointless argument.
smoking is wrong. period. assur…mutar…its wrong.
the punishment for smoking should be more than just a smile and a “dont do it again”
there is no distinction between a “chashuva” bochur who smokes and a “bum” who smokes they are equally wrong in that regard.
parents have to educate their kids on the evils of smoking and other vices, and constantly emphasize the point.
here are the four basic points that came out of this argument, and further discussion of the matter is pointless and unnecessary.