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Pashuteh Yid
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Anybody who blames the Zionists for what the Nazis did is at best a shakran and at worst an apikorus. To say, as was quoted above that had we listened to Rav XYZ’s plan the Holocaust wouldn’t have happened is totally ignoring the fact the the RBSH runs the world. To make up nonsense that the Mufti and Hitler were great friends of the Jews if not for the Zionists, is ludicrous. The blame belongs on Hitler and the Mufti, not on the victims. Plenty of Zionists lost family in the Holocaust, as well.

To say that had we resorted to the old scheme of “quiet diplomacy” (read, protection money) everything would have been fine, is also baloney and kefira. What about Tach vTat, the Crusades, the Inquisition??? Do the Zionists also take the blame for those, as well? It is an inability to admit that the Holocaust was min hashamayim and possibly because of deep personal kashyas of some of these Rabbonim which they don’t have answers for that they play the blame game. If you want to talk about hishtadlus to prevent anti-semitism, the rational way is to do what the Zionists did, and establish a safe haven run by Jews in our own homeland so we will not be subject to pogroms, economic discrimination, expulsions, compulsion to convert to other religions, etc. The logic is so simple that one would have to have had his mind totally twisted by Chareidi propaganda to think that a better solution is to depend on other nations to protect us and treat us fairly when their track record in doing so througout all of history has been so dismal. What world are these distorters of history living in? Do they have any idea how bitter the golus has been even long before the holocaust? Are they aware how the Russians used to draft nice Yiddishe kids for 25 years until they were finished with yiddishkeit and completely broken, having been away from their families for all that time? Read about the Cantonist children for details. I have never heard such sheker in my life that throughout our golus life was great thanks to “quiet diplomacy”. One would have to be a total shoteh not to feel the pain of this long and bitter golus for two thousand years.

Any person on the street knows its better to own your own home rather than rent, since the landlord can evict you any time and not renew the lease. He can control how you use the property, raise the rent every year, conduct maintenance and invade your privacy when you most need some rest and tranquility (say the week before your son’s bar mitzvah), etc. etc. etc. When you own your own place, as long as you can afford the mortgage, you are the baal habayis and nobody can make your life miserable. It is so simple any child can understand it. Chareidi brainwashing goes a long way in getting people to lose their ability to think. The Zionists took the most sensible and comprehensive path in trying to solve the problem of anti-semitism. Was everything they did perfect, no, they were human. So let’s continue to improve on the beautiful edifice they have built and from which all Jews benefit Chareidim included, although they don’t have the midas haemes to admit it. Compare their lives now in EY with their lives in their beloved Europe they so much long for (and want to continue that language and dress). Only a fool would think it was better then.