Every few months this discussion is rehashed. Let’s drop it, and accept upon ourselves not to bring it up again. Neither side is making or has ever made any progress here or on any blog.
Neither the YU side nor the Yeshivish side is going to accept the criticism of their respective institutions. This is also not the venue for initiating neutral parties, which is the main reason, I think, why we defend our positions here.
Can we agree?