14 Responses

1. we all know that there is a maximum number of sfardi girls that this school in emanuel would ever accept .if there is no discrimination , then why will the school not allow an impartial beis din decide which girls that will or will not be accepted?

2. Read the article here
   http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/Emanuel+School+Crisis/63023/Yerushalayim+Beis+Din+Cancels+Lalum+Agreement.html
   for the answer.

   On Sunday, YWN-ISRAEL reported that Lalum signed an arbitration agreement with the Yerushalayim Beis Din, giving the beis din total authority to adjudicate matters. Lalum’s responsibilities included withdrawing all High Court petitions within three hours of signing the document. On Monday at 11:00am, the beis din came to the realization that Lalum has no intentions of doing any such thing, but he abused the beis din by taking cynical advantage of it, using the arbitration agreement to feed the media.

3. I am confused. If these girls were not accepted because of their lack of religiosity, why would their parents want to send them to that school in the first place? Wouldn’t they want to send their children to a school more conducive to their lifestyle?

4. farfrumt,
   Aside from the student613’s link, how do you know how many Sefardi girls the school would take?

5. We don’t appreciate the freedom we have here in U.S.A. with religious schooling and yes with alot of funding.
   Smart are the institions in Eretz Yisroel who run their mosdos with emunah and bitachon and help from generous Yidden there and abroad.
   The Israeli government is sick and will doing anything to help our enemies rather than religious institutions.
   Look what happened in such as Gush Katif. Do we ever hear the aftermath or see photos of what was done to the beautiful community that they demolished with hatred. Where are the so called housing the enemies claimed they needed?
   A larger number of young Americans who would have made their homes in Eretz Yisroel are returning to America this summer because of the backward thinking of the Israeli government.

6. I have a number of questions for Yechial Spira:
   1. What polls are showing a shift in support and how much is that shift? 2. The story is exactly like the Beis Yakov parents have been saying. Since the children on both sides of the fence were Beis Yakov? which ones? How many Ashkenazi girls were not accepted in the school? How many Sfardi were not accepted? How many were accepted? How many children are there in the two schools? How many children were turned down because their mother doesn’t wear a Sheitel because Rav Ovadia Yosef holds it’s assur and wear a kirchief instead? How many were turned down because they daven with a Havara Sefardis because that’s מנהג אבותיהם בידיהם? How many were perfectly happy to remain in the general program but refuse to accept the apartheid program instituted by Slanim?

7. #1 – please comment 8 at this yeshiva world post http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=63293

8. #1 – please read comment 8 at this yeshiva world post http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=63293

9. i don’t understand it… why does the Israeli government have to be involved in anything involving yiddishkeit? we are definitely spoiled in golus regarding our avoidance of the government… simply because we know we are dealing with goyim and goyisha institutions, we automatically keep our Torah activities private, separate, and safe …. in Israel, there is this insidious feeling that, because the government is Jewish, it is not dangerous to include them … hello!!! don’t Jews know that anything secular … Jewish or not … is dangerous to Torah? don’t we ask Ha-Shem every morning that He ‘protect us from any evil, Jew or non-Jew’ that will distract us from doing mitzvot? anything that will keep religious activities in Israel isolated from government involvement should be immediately adopted (why have we waited until this crisis?)… Frum Jews of every heritage (Sephardic, Ashkenazim, and others) need to form their own separate, unified organization and committee that oversees all the halacha of Israel … separate from, and excluding, all government involvement whatsoever … examples of this are the OU or the OK, etc. in the U.S….. kashrus and frum organizations that have become very successful as private religious authoritative entities… it is the only way to protect Torah for the future of Israel…

10. ‘A larger number of young Americans who would have made their homes in Eretz Yisroel are returning to America this summer because of the backward thinking of the Israeli government’.

    ANY PROOF ON THIS RIDICULOUS STATEMENT?
    Nefesh Benefesh has airplanes full with olim arriving this summer as they did last. Perhaps you are referring to the American yeshiva families who were learning in Eretz Yisroel and are returning to their lives in America. Do not join the group of “Meraglim” to speak ‘diba raah’ that is inaccurate and slanted?

11. #10 – “‘A larger number of young Americans who would have made their homes in Eretz Yisroel are returning to America this summer because of the backward thinking of the Israeli government’. ANY PROOF ON THIS RIDICULOUS STATEMENT?”
    This statement may be unproven, but what makes it so ridiculous?
    “Do not join the group of “Meraglim” to speak ‘diba raah’ that is inaccurate and slanted?”
    The Meraglim spoke negatively about the kadosh land of Eretz Yisroel. Commentor #5 spoke negatively about the secular government currently in power in the stater of Israel. Do you really think that there is any similarity at all between the two?

12. To #10
    You are quick to comment on the unknown.
    What if you want to live in Eretz Yisroel without becoming a citizen. You live there, pay taxes and rent, should you not be qualified for health insurance without becoming a citizen???
    What they do is try to force citizenship on you because your great grandfather passed through the medina on his way to America.
    The people of Nefesh want to become part of the medina and do such as serve in the army even if such as Hesder something us Chareidim will not do.
    Our children were denied insurance and are being hounded for narishkeiten.

13. We all know that most avreichim and bochurim learn in Eretz Yisroel on tourist visas that almost always have expired. Why should they be granted health insurance for being in the country illegally? In the US or UK they would be deported. Does a tourist visiting the US or UK receive health care from the government? And don’t give me the usual mantra, what right do the Zionists have to prevent a Jew from being in EY because you have to look at reality and unfortunately at the moment they are in control.
    Anyways if a person has a student visa and is legally in the country you can receive bituach leumi.

14. #13 – “We all know…”
    Speak for yourself.
    “…that most avreichim and bochurim learn in Eretz Yisroel on tourist visas that almost always have expired.”
    Even if this is true, which you have not brought any proof to, what does this have to do anything?